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ODST Invasion Development Thread

[quote][b]Welcome to the ODST Invasion Development Thread![/b][/quote] The premise of the ODST Invasion map is to bring the ODST aesthetic design to Multiplayer in the form of a competitive map. Follow the development via this thread and share any thoughts, ideas, and feedback you may have as well. [u][b]Design - v.2[/b][/u] [i]The following phases are subject to change[/i] [u]ODSTs drop into the city to disable a Covenant bomb[/u] [b]P1:[/b] Territories--Contact the superintendent to unlock the supply cache. Two Territories at 20/7 seconds each [b]P2:[/b] Assault--Demolish the gate to the building that the Covenant have planted their bomb in [b]P3:[/b] Core Retrieval--Remove the bomb's power source and escort it out of the city [u][b]Checklist:[/b][/u] [ ] Map Name [ ] Map Fiction/Story [ ] Objectives [ ] Terrain/Location [x] ODST aesthetic palette [x] List of unique features to incorporate [ ] Blueprint [ ] Forged Map

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  • Both. The company [b]knows[/b], because it is composed of employees who [b]know[/b].

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chief Bigwig Why else would Microsoft hire them? [/quote] I'm confused. Are you talking about the company or the employees?

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  • Buzzing for this map.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chief Bigwig 343 [b]knows[/b] what they are doing. Why else would Microsoft hire them? [/quote] Exactly.

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  • 343 [b]knows[/b] what they are doing. Why else would Microsoft hire them?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ThreeSixXero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat Those things being bad for competitive gameplay can be disputed. [/quote] No they can't.[/quote] Yes they can. I'm not even going to read your post because you're still stuck in this mentality that "opinion = fact" It just doesn't. We can agree on all of the same topics (which we likely do), but the 'true' fact is that the way these things affect people is [i]completely subjective[/i]. [/quote]Read the post. I didn't put down anything that was my opinion. The only things that come close to it are the assumptions that skill and balance are major factors for competitive play. [Edited on 09.03.2012 10:30 AM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ThreeSixXero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat Those things being bad for competitive gameplay can be disputed. [/quote] No they can't.[/quote] Yes they can. I'm not even going to read your post because you're still stuck in this mentality that "opinion = fact" It just doesn't. We can agree on all of the same topics (which we likely do), but the 'true' fact is that the way these things affect people is [i]completely subjective[/i].

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat Those things being bad for competitive gameplay can be disputed. [/quote] No they can't. Random elements induced by the game rather than the player in a vain effort to produce variety lower the game's competitive quality since it's no longer up to the player's skill to determine the degree and type of play that is done in a match and since people must now rely that much more on equipment rather than individual skill with such equipment. Some equipment will certainly be more useful simply because of the map that players are on, thus making some equipment preferable to others and directly ruining balance in an inherent fashion. To say that these new assets are completely useless is short minded, since a randomized weapon drop system (as far as the general weapon sandbox goes) could be useful to a degree and since these new AA's could create new possibilities for map design (like they could have done so in Reach and did so in Reach's MLG). I can even think of a way to use loadouts (not Custom loadouts) that would better compliment the amount of weapons put into the game by making the general format of preset loadouts to be utility/appropriate general sandbox weapon, which would induce variety while relying on the balance of the sandbox, which is that much easier to accomplish with the inclusion of the utility as a concept. The problem is that the implementation of these new elements are all done wrong from a competitive standpoint and leave a lot of room for improvement. Hopefully the settings are flexible enough to allow for what I am talking about to be achieved. [Edited on 09.03.2012 10:00 AM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ThreeSixXero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ThreeSixXero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] boomdeyadah Don't have to touch a stove that's on to know it's hot.[/quote] There's no debating whether the stove is hot or not. Let's not mix facts and opinions here. [/quote] There's no debate that there's custom loadouts, randomized weapon drops, and -blam!- armor perks in the game. Let's not mix opinions and facts here.[/quote] No that is not debatable. That's an observation. Whether you like them or not is an opinion. [/quote] All of those elements have been observed to be bad for ideal competitive play (kind of like how it has been observed that a stove, when turned on, can burn your hands). It doesn't matter whether I like them or not, it's about the results they produce, and it's terribly likely that they will produce bad results in an environment meant for competitive play.[/quote] The stove being hot cannot be disputed. Those things being bad for competitive gameplay can be disputed. I agree with you, but I'm just keeping it real. Again, let's not mix facts and opinions. Those things being bad is subjective. I still don't like them.

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  • Edited by A 3 Legged Goat: 1/25/2013 8:37:59 PM
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ThreeSixXero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ThreeSixXero No Invasion maps, but he did get Think Twice into MM which is an accomplishment that he's not proud of.[/quote] I helped work on some of the Invasion maps that were put into MM. [/quote] Are you credited for any? [/quote] Nope I'm not an author, but my contributions have certainly helped. The HWM are a good community.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ThreeSixXero No Invasion maps, but he did get Think Twice into MM which is an accomplishment that he's not proud of.[/quote] I helped work on some of the Invasion maps that were put into MM. [/quote] Are you credited for any?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ThreeSixXero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] boomdeyadah [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Prometheanss Halo 4 looks terrible, but you haven't played it yet. [/quote]Don't have to touch a stove that's on to know it's hot.[/quote] There's no debating whether the stove is hot or not. Let's not mix facts and opinions here. [/quote] There's no debate that there's custom loadouts, randomized weapon drops, and -blam!- armor perks in the game. Let's not mix opinions and facts here.[/quote] No that is not debatable. That's an observation. Whether you like them or not is an opinion. [/quote] All of those elements have been observed to be bad for ideal competitive play (kind of like how it has been observed that a stove, when turned on, can burn your hands). It doesn't matter whether I like them or not, it's about the results they produce, and it's terribly likely that they will produce bad results in an environment meant for competitive play.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ThreeSixXero No Invasion maps, but he did get Think Twice into MM which is an accomplishment that he's not proud of.[/quote] I helped work on some of the Invasion maps that were put into MM.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ThreeSixXero [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] boomdeyadah [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Prometheanss Halo 4 looks terrible, but you haven't played it yet. [/quote]Don't have to touch a stove that's on to know it's hot.[/quote] There's no debating whether the stove is hot or not. Let's not mix facts and opinions here. [/quote] There's no debate that there's custom loadouts, randomized weapon drops, and -blam!- armor perks in the game. Let's not mix opinions and facts here.[/quote] No that is not debatable. That's an observation. Whether you like them or not is an opinion.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] boomdeyadah [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Prometheanss Halo 4 looks terrible, but you haven't played it yet. [/quote]Don't have to touch a stove that's on to know it's hot.[/quote] There's no debating whether the stove is hot or not. Let's not mix facts and opinions here. [/quote] There's no debate that there's custom loadouts, randomized weapon drops, and -blam!- armor perks in the game. Let's not mix opinions and facts here.

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  • No Invasion maps, but he did get Think Twice into MM which is an accomplishment that he's not proud of.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Opinion Did OP ever get one of his maps into MM?[/quote] I don't think he did.

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  • Did OP ever get one of his maps into MM?

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  • Except for the fact every fps nowadays has sprint minus counter strike which is a very balanced competetive shooter. So really, sure we could sit here and say ya we could make the game better but in all honestly you wouldn't know the first thing about game design. Would your game sell? Or would it only please to a say 30,000 competetive players. Would that amount make you money to make another game with COD selling as many as it does? All in all it's a tough world to be a good developer out there when you have activision cashing cod so easily, you know this. You can sit here and bash aa's but in reality they are just equipment just like halo 3. A random factor put into the equation of battle to make it more interesting. Same thing could have been said about bullet spread, dual wielding. [Edited on 09.03.2012 6:42 AM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ankerd123 This isn't on topic anymore just let it die.[/quote] nevar

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ankerd123 This isn't on topic anymore just let it die.[/quote] Honestly, why have you been so adamant in dissing this thread, and me in general? I don't even have any idea who you are. [/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ankerd123 This isn't on topic anymore just let it die.[/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ankerd123 This isn't on topic anymore just let it die.[/quote] Honestly, why have you been so adamant in dissing this thread, and me in general? I don't even have any idea who you are.

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  • This isn't on topic anymore just let it die.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] boomdeyadah [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Prometheanss Halo 4 looks terrible, but you haven't played it yet. [/quote]Don't have to touch a stove that's on to know it's hot.[/quote] There's no debating whether the stove is hot or not. Let's not mix facts and opinions here.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Prometheanss Halo 4 looks terrible, but you haven't played it yet. [/quote]Don't have to touch a stove that's on to know it's hot.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Prometheanss Yes however, bungie created Reach in general and the terrible original arena system bassed on individual skill which flopped. I could go on and on.[/quote] Reach was bad. Nothing new here. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Prometheanss Halo 4 looks terrible, but you haven't played it yet.[/quote] Correct. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Prometheanss I'm sure as a developer you could do a much better job at creating a balanced competetive game?[/quote] With Bungie's resources, and an extensive knowledge of game design? Absolutely. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Prometheanss AS far as I'm concerned Bungie started going into the direction and didn't even try to balance the aa's. 343 from what I have seen has tried to make everything balanced. [/quote] Yo, I heard you like armor abilities, so we gave you sprint in addition to an armor ability so you can sprint while you jetpack/camo/seethroughwalls/etc. -_-

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