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5/8/2011 10:08:30 AM
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Who the -blam!- messed with Invasion Boneyard!!!
Me and a friend went to play Invasion and we got bonyard but Bungie or 343 "Added" a few things like:
1: Soft kill barriers up on the pipes? WTF Stupid mistake.
2: Spawning you teammates under the staircase near the barriers instant kill barrier? STUPID!
3: Spawning your pal to the 2nd part of the map as an elite instant kill barrier?
Bungie dont fix what isnt broken. Im not playing Invasion anymore until you put it back the way it was. I started a group on facebook for people to join if they want it back. In the hour and a bit its been out. over 1,300 people have joined lol. So put it back.
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... facebook? srsly?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WilliamLytle57 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XxX1000CorpsesXx I may be wrong, but I think I may have been one of the first few to discover getting on the pipes. Yes, it was an annoying tactic, but useful. Only bad thing is, if you could get it just right, you could get into the Spartan spawn in the first phase if you knew where to jump. So yeah, I can see why they put a barrier up there, even if I don't agree with it.[/quote]Alot of people think that. I remember when I got up there, I was just messing around in forge on boneyard, and seen no soft or hard kill so I attempted it out of edit mode and it seemed to be way too easy crouch jumping. I've also heard a ton of people claim they were the first. Makes me laugh. Not saying you did it without seeing anyone else or trying to insult you, I'm just saying it's easy to think your the first when you did it before it was "cool"[/quote] Well, I had never, ever seen a soul up there before I had tried. So yeah..
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The only thing I agree with is the hard kill zone under the stairs. That was a good tactic and there was no manipulation of any sort that could be said wrong about that. Putting a soft kill zone on the pipes is a meh for me. Only scrubs got up there in the first place and only scrubs couldn't take em down. The whole second phase thing? Yeah, that's pretty self explanatory.
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So unfair tactics and camping -blam!-ry has now been fixed? It makes me sad when people complain about this. It makes me lose what little faith in humanity I have left.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths What you call exploites I call STRATAGY. The Spartans get an Advantage 100% of the time against the Elites on Boneyard. The elites find 1 thing that gives them a bit of a fair advantage and bungie is like NOPE NON OF THAT!!! Point is bungie should have tested out their maps more to find these so called "exploits."[/quote]I think you'll find that exploiting bugs in maps falls under the category of cheating, even by Xbox LIVE's policies.
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False labling here. Im sorry the topic got off topic but Im not trolling by having these issues with Invasion Bonyard. Sheesh its like if someone complains they are instantly labled a Troll. Which isnt the case in this issue. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kanku13 FTW wow, i feel this is long overdue. ready? i want you to be prepared to take in what is absorbed by your ears from my mouth. ODVIOUS. TROLL. IS. ODVIOUS! god, nobodies even able to sense a troll anymore.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths If it bothers your eyes your a moron. Its like some kid on my friends list he said I was getting a headache from it so I returned it....Im like you dip-blam!- you can ADJUST the 3D to make it stronger or not for your specific eyes. If you use your brain to adjust it for yourself YOU GET NO DAMN PROBLEMS. [/quote] He was like blam and cured his brain. Oh wait, there is nothing to cure...
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wow, i feel this is long overdue. ready? i want you to be prepared to take in what is absorbed by your ears from my mouth. ODVIOUS. TROLL. IS. ODVIOUS! god, nobodies even able to sense a troll anymore.
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If it bothers your eyes your a moron. Its like some kid on my friends list he said I was getting a headache from it so I returned it....Im like you dip-blam!- you can ADJUST the 3D to make it stronger or not for your specific eyes. If you use your brain to adjust it for yourself YOU GET NO DAMN PROBLEMS. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ryanw96 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths Oh here we go again. Another person who says Nintendo is Kiddy. Mario LOOKS kiddy it plays solid. A game doesnt need blood, gore, nudity, -blam!-ity, violence to be a non kiddy game. As for the 3DS I doubt you even have one cause I happen to have one and I dont need to stay absolutly still for the 3D. I can move almost at any angle and still see the 3D. Then again everyones eyes work differently on it. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bigpapi3493 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths Cant wait till Ocarina Of Time 3D comes out. At least Nintendo doesnt -blam!- over their players.[/quote] Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ, that gave me a good laugh. No, Nintendo doesn't screw over their players. They just rehash their games and sell their players out by giving them a system that caters to toddlers and young kids by making the most juvenile, asinine games imaginable. To quote Ben Croshaw (aka Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation), "Nintendo seem to have forgotten that they're a gaming company, not Fisher Price." (Referring to the Wii) The 3DS? Fine if you want to play a handheld system that requires you to stay absolutely still at all times while playing it so the 3D works. OT: Obviously there was a problem with the map if they decided to change it. Doesn't mean it was a big problem, but I doubt Bungie/343 would just arbitrarily change Boneyard because they were bored.[/quote][/quote] Im surprised ppl have not sued nintendo becuase of the 3ds giving people cross eyes. Its good innovation but too much on the eyes.[/quote]
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Exactly but the Spartans already do get a 100% advantage. A Scorpion every 30 seconds? Which elites cant steal but Spartans can steal any Covenant vehicle? Yah thats fair. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ryanw96 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths What you call exploites I call STRATAGY. The Spartans get an Advantage 100% of the time against the Elites on Boneyard. The elites find 1 thing that gives them a bit of a fair advantage and bungie is like NOPE NON OF THAT!!! Point is bungie should have tested out their maps more to find these so called "exploits." [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dazarobbo Was using map exploits the only way you could win before? If so, that's pretty sad.[/quote][/quote] They are exploits. That gives an unfair advantage to the other team. One team should not get 100% advantage at all.[/quote] [Edited on 05.08.2011 9:50 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bigpapi3493 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths Cant wait till Ocarina Of Time 3D comes out. At least Nintendo doesnt -blam!- over their players.[/quote] Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ, that gave me a good laugh. No, Nintendo doesn't screw over their players. They just rehash their games and sell their players out by giving them a system that caters to toddlers and young kids by making the most juvenile, asinine games imaginable. To quote Ben Croshaw (aka Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation), "Nintendo seem to have forgotten that they're a gaming company, not Fisher Price." (Referring to the Wii) The 3DS? Fine if you want to play a handheld system that requires you to stay absolutely still at all times while playing it so the 3D works. OT: Obviously there was a problem with the map if they decided to change it. Doesn't mean it was a big problem, but I doubt Bungie/343 would just arbitrarily change Boneyard because they were bored.[/quote] Quoted for truth. Thank you Good sir!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths What you call exploites I call STRATAGY. The Spartans get an Advantage 100% of the time against the Elites on Boneyard. The elites find 1 thing that gives them a bit of a fair advantage and bungie is like NOPE NON OF THAT!!! Point is bungie should have tested out their maps more to find these so called "exploits." [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dazarobbo Was using map exploits the only way you could win before? If so, that's pretty sad.[/quote][/quote]Advantage? Man using cheap exploits is the only way you can win The only thing that needs to be said Get better U mad and cry more.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Blood Gulch 7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Leprechaun209 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dazarobbo Was using map exploits the only way you could win before? If so, that's pretty sad.[/quote] Burned by a Ninja.[/quote] And that was probably only his amateur burn. OT - The changes were necessary to reduce the breakable aspects of the map. I'm not sure you understand much about map design, OP.[/quote]Ditto
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Let me get the forum logic on this one. Ok lets see if you can follow me. Using exploits on the map like the pipes means you suck and you ruin the game for every one. Using exploits like memorizing the spawns to kill enemies as they spawn means you're a MLG pro. yeah ok. Personally however, Halo has always been a game feel with WTF moments that make me rage at times but thats what makes it fun to play. Buy removing aspects from the game that work to a players advantage (like the pipes) simply because everybody found out about it is nothing more than a dick move. Allot of the maps that are available for this game already have areas in which you can only stand in for ten seconds. Which makes me ask why did you put it in there in the first place. To wrap my point up, all im saying is keep the maps the same instead of limiting them to certain areas, it results in an over all more creative and fun play-through online. good day.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths Me and a friend went to play Invasion and we got bonyard but Bungie or 343 "Added" a few things like: 1: Soft kill barriers up on the pipes? WTF Stupid mistake. 2: Spawning you teammates under the staircase near the barriers instant kill barrier? STUPID! 3: Spawning your pal to the 2nd part of the map as an elite instant kill barrier? Bungie dont fix what isnt broken. Im not playing Invasion anymore until you put it back the way it was. I started a group on facebook for people to join if they want it back. In the hour and a bit its been out. over 1,300 people have joined lol. So put it back.[/quote] 1: The pipes were broken. VERY VERY broken. 2 Spartans camping up there won the round, much less the whole team. 2: Yes, that is a problem Bungie needs to fix. 3: This was ALSO broken. If you spawned on the second part of the map during the first tier you were manipulating the game and cheating.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ryen Im surprised ppl have not sued nintendo becuase of the 3ds giving people cross eyes. Its good innovation but too much on the eyes.[/quote] dragon they gave proper warning to that so i belive they are relised of liabilty Bad spelling for the win [Edited on 05.08.2011 5:34 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] boomdeyadah [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kingofsmash1 This, plus this thread is now about quoting dazarobbo.[/quote] That only applies if an employee posts.[/quote]Well, I think this is one of those moments where a forum ninja gets to be quoted, so :P.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths Oh here we go again. Another person who says Nintendo is Kiddy. Mario LOOKS kiddy it plays solid. A game doesnt need blood, gore, nudity, -blam!-ity, violence to be a non kiddy game. As for the 3DS I doubt you even have one cause I happen to have one and I dont need to stay absolutly still for the 3D. I can move almost at any angle and still see the 3D. Then again everyones eyes work differently on it. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bigpapi3493 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths Cant wait till Ocarina Of Time 3D comes out. At least Nintendo doesnt -blam!- over their players.[/quote] Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ, that gave me a good laugh. No, Nintendo doesn't screw over their players. They just rehash their games and sell their players out by giving them a system that caters to toddlers and young kids by making the most juvenile, asinine games imaginable. To quote Ben Croshaw (aka Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation), "Nintendo seem to have forgotten that they're a gaming company, not Fisher Price." (Referring to the Wii) The 3DS? Fine if you want to play a handheld system that requires you to stay absolutely still at all times while playing it so the 3D works. OT: Obviously there was a problem with the map if they decided to change it. Doesn't mean it was a big problem, but I doubt Bungie/343 would just arbitrarily change Boneyard because they were bored.[/quote][/quote] Im surprised ppl have not sued nintendo becuase of the 3ds giving people cross eyes. Its good innovation but too much on the eyes.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths What you call exploites I call STRATAGY. The Spartans get an Advantage 100% of the time against the Elites on Boneyard. The elites find 1 thing that gives them a bit of a fair advantage and bungie is like NOPE NON OF THAT!!! Point is bungie should have tested out their maps more to find these so called "exploits." [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dazarobbo Was using map exploits the only way you could win before? If so, that's pretty sad.[/quote][/quote] They are exploits. That gives an unfair advantage to the other team. One team should not get 100% advantage at all.
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Sounds more like they fixed it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths Me and my bud who we always did these tricks. WE WERE THE ONLY ONES WHO DID ANYTHING. every damn game our teammates shoot the ground or walk in giving the enemies free kills nobody ever tries on our teams EVER. Cause if your not hacking or modding it seems your AFK or being useless. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spawn031 Shame you can't use your spawning glitches to win anymore. Maybe you should actually ya know.... work with your team? [/quote][/quote] If you and your friends are the only ones who did anything, then you shouldn't have any problem taking out enemies with those kill zones in. Right?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DragonSilths Me and a friend went to play Invasion and we got bonyard but Bungie or 343 "Added" a few things like: 1: Soft kill barriers up on the pipes? WTF Stupid mistake. 2: Spawning you teammates under the staircase near the barriers instant kill barrier? STUPID! 3: Spawning your pal to the 2nd part of the map as an elite instant kill barrier? Bungie dont fix what isnt broken. Im not playing Invasion anymore until you put it back the way it was. I started a group on facebook for people to join if they want it back. In the hour and a bit its been out. over 1,300 people have joined lol. So put it back.[/quote] Let me get started by simply saying umad ? That is all.
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Me and my bud who we always did these tricks. WE WERE THE ONLY ONES WHO DID ANYTHING. every damn game our teammates shoot the ground or walk in giving the enemies free kills nobody ever tries on our teams EVER. Cause if your not hacking or modding it seems your AFK or being useless. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spawn031 Shame you can't use your spawning glitches to win anymore. Maybe you should actually ya know.... work with your team? [/quote]
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And this is why we cant have nice things...
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Shame you can't use your spawning glitches to win anymore. Maybe you should actually ya know.... work with your team?
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People have used the same moves on me im good enough to still beat people who use it cause its not unfair in my mind it makes it more balanced and fair. So I was fine with people using it. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Alpha 125 Put money on it that the OP changes his tune when people use his own tactics against him. All removing it has done is weed out the high K/D people who exploit to earn it. Now you must use your mind tactically, like the game was originally designed to be. If you want mindless killing at choke points, play CoD zombies or something like that. If you want tactics combined with casual aim, play reach.[/quote]
