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1/28/2011 7:43:17 PM
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Space Marine (Adeptus Astartes) vs Spartan II
If both were to face against each other with standard equipment, who would win?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Blo0dRag3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 Read what I said, second comment.[/quote] Ah, k. Kinda sleepy...[/quote] In that quote of Wyld and I.. er, yeah. Above guy, read. [Edited on 01.28.2011 4:42 PM PST]
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The Imperial Forces... 1) Emporer class ship will tear through the UNSC fleet like it's tissue paper... ALONE. 2) Space Marines vs Spartans. Space Marines - A Chapter master is godlike. Thats not considering the fact Grey Knights are of similiar caliber and you then also have General Captain who is on par with the emporer... - They cant die from blood loss. - Power armour can protect from rounds size of your leg... Spartans current equipment wont do much. - Explosive Rounds - Focus/Power weapons (Powersword, power fist, Thunder Hammer, Deamon Hammer. In order of str.) - They have "No fear". Debatable. Spartans: - Armour abilitys... I guess. Thats about only advantage UNSC Spartans have. Let's compare.. John-117 to... Chapter Master Calger. John-117 *fires BR into Calger* *Calger stands their and shakes it off, hits John-117 with Powerfist* *John-117 dies* [Edited on 01.28.2011 4:46 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ociee No? You flat out refuse to believe what we have said and then when we give you a source you say no.[/quote] I'm not doing your work for you. I want context on that scene, less I just insult your education :) [quote] To be honest I never really thought that the Spartan would win...I'm just here for the lulz.[/quote] ... And we're back to that. [Edited on 01.28.2011 4:42 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 Read what I said, second comment.[/quote] Ah, k. Kinda sleepy...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Blo0dRag3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Blo0dRag3 Now add at least a CENTURY of experience to this list. That´s the minimum in most chapters until SM get their Power Armor.[/quote] QFMFT[/quote] QFMFT... did you get that from someone or is that old? I believe I posted that yesterday. Quoted fro mother -blam!- truth.[/quote] It's old. I've used it for ages.[/quote] WTH does it mean anyways?[/quote] Read what I said, second comment.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Blo0dRag3 Now add at least a CENTURY of experience to this list. That´s the minimum in most chapters until SM get their Power Armor.[/quote] QFMFT[/quote] QFMFT... did you get that from someone or is that old? I believe I posted that yesterday. Quoted fro mother -blam!- truth.[/quote] It's old. I've used it for ages.[/quote] WTH does it mean anyways?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frauka [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh and......your validity in this discusion just hit the fan. Congratulations! You officially confirmed that you are unwilling to accept the power of the Halo universe! Thus, you are no longer a viable factor in this argument. We need unbias in this.[/quote] Ahaha, this is rich! So, because I refuse to do work you lazy bastards have to do, I lose validity? It's also funny you didn't say the same to your friend who said that Spartans would win regardless of all the evidence against it. Also, you three actually believe a ground force can destroy the crust of a planet? Really, you three literally know less than nothing about basic physics. Go learn high school physics, energy densities in particular, and figure out why you have made yourselves look daft on this topic. But if you're lazy, I think I can explain it; the yields you speak of would create fireballs that engulf the planet multiple times over, destroying everything, but not before turning it into a giant wave sent hurling at massive speeds. The entire planet has storms of plasma, and the surface is thousands of Kelvins. [/quote] Just stop. You're not going to win this against them. I'm done now, only coming for the idiocy of it all now.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Blo0dRag3 Now add at least a CENTURY of experience to this list. That´s the minimum in most chapters until SM get their Power Armor.[/quote] QFMFT[/quote] QFMFT... did you get that from someone or is that old? I believe I posted that yesterday. Quoted fro mother -blam!- truth.[/quote] It's old. I've used it for ages.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh and......your validity in this discusion just hit the fan. Congratulations! You officially confirmed that you are unwilling to accept the power of the Halo universe! Thus, you are no longer a viable factor in this argument. We need unbias in this.[/quote] Ahaha, this is rich! So, because I refuse to do work you lazy bastards have to do, I lose validity? It's also funny you didn't say the same to your friend who said that Spartans would win regardless of all the evidence against it. Also, you three actually believe a ground force can destroy the crust of a planet? Really, you three literally know less than nothing about basic physics. Go learn high school physics, energy densities in particular, and figure out why you have made yourselves look daft on this topic. But if you're lazy, I think I can explain it; the yields you speak of would create fireballs that engulf the planet multiple times over, destroying everything, but not before turning it into a giant wave sent hurling at massive speeds. The entire planet has storms of plasma, and the surface is thousands of Kelvins hot. The Flood would NEVER be able to survive or stop that, making any ground combat impossible for them. Even the Onyx Shield World Sentinels couldn't match anything nearly that powerful [i]in their thousands[/i]. No, they created megaton explosions then. I guess normal Forerunner troops are superior to even them, right? As in... making mass extinction events with their standard weapons. Do you still defend this idiotic claim that ground forces can crack crusts? I think it's safe to say that these weren't ground forces, but instead things designed exactly for what they did. Also, yeah, this topic is about Spartans vs Space Marines. So, I guess we can put this to an end and get back to that, alright then? [Edited on 01.28.2011 4:38 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Blo0dRag3 Now add at least a CENTURY of experience to this list. That´s the minimum in most chapters until SM get their Power Armor.[/quote] QFMFT[/quote] QFMFT... did you get that from someone or is that old? I believe I posted that yesterday. Quoted fro mother -blam!- truth.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ociee In the eye.[/quote] In Dead Sky Black Sun, Honsou, Chaos Champion of the Iron Warriors gets half his head obliterated with a Bolt round. He doesn't even notice until he realises he can't see out of his left eye.[/quote] So they're invincible? Because in gameplay for 40K I see Space Marines get cut down all the time. Not like cannon fodder, but often.[/quote] It's kinda like comparing the Halo Single Player to Halo Multi Player. They're not really invincible, just a helluva lot tougher than tanks.[/quote] Plus that Fluff. In the Fluff both SIIs and SM are WAY. WAY. WAY. more powerful than anything else on the battlefield. Also, it isn´t that the IG are that weak and flimsy, it´s that the other things just have such a retarded amount of firepower.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ociee You assume that a SPARTAN who has been trained since childhood would be dumb enough to attack an opponent that is much stronger than him.....SPARTANS are masters of guerrilla warfare. The Space Marine would never see the Spartan. Also Space Marines look so f**king retarded..... [/quote] Fanboy alert. Woops, too late, GTFO now.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Blo0dRag3 Now add at least a CENTURY of experience to this list. That´s the minimum in most chapters until SM get their Power Armor.[/quote] QFMFT
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frauka [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] old bad dog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frauka [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ociee The Forerunners could travel in between dimensions....[/quote] ...And? Races in 40k do that normally. [quote] they could also stop galaxies from spinning....[/quote] Proof? [quote] and create black holes as well as ships made out of PURE LIGHT.... [/quote] Proof? [quote] as for that quote on their ground forces...here ya go...this is from Cryptum: "The atmosphere below was a swirling soup of smoke and fire. Warrior craft and automated weapon systems were mostly to small to be visible, but I saw their effects darting beams of needle light, glowing arcs cutting across conti- nents, gigantic, stamplike divots punched into the crust and then lifted up, spun about, overturned. I had never seen anything like this but the Didact had." [/quote] ... And where does it "ground weapons"? [/quote] It's called Halo: Cryptum. You should read it.[/quote] No.[/quote] No? You flat out refuse to believe what we have said and then when we give you a source you say no. To be honest I never really thought that the Spartan would win...I'm just here for the lulz.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 So, now it's just basically a tied match.[/quote] I would say a [i][b][u]very[/i][/b][/u] close match, but I still believe that a Space Marine would pull through due to his extensively augmented anatomy, physical and mental.[/quote] That's what has me: both of their augmentations and the extensions of them. If it weren't for you and how you've clarified it, I'd still be ignorant. Thanks, Wyld.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ociee In the eye.[/quote] In Dead Sky Black Sun, Honsou, Chaos Champion of the Iron Warriors gets half his head obliterated with a Bolt round. He doesn't even notice until he realises he can't see out of his left eye.[/quote] So they're invincible? Because in gameplay for 40K I see Space Marines get cut down all the time. Not like cannon fodder, but often.[/quote] It's kinda like comparing the Halo Single Player to Halo Multi Player. They're not really invincible, just a helluva lot tougher than tanks. [Edited on 01.28.2011 4:27 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frauka [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] old bad dog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frauka [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ociee The Forerunners could travel in between dimensions....[/quote] ...And? Races in 40k do that normally. [quote] they could also stop galaxies from spinning....[/quote] Proof? [quote] and create black holes as well as ships made out of PURE LIGHT.... [/quote] Proof? [quote] as for that quote on their ground forces...here ya go...this is from Cryptum: "The atmosphere below was a swirling soup of smoke and fire. Warrior craft and automated weapon systems were mostly to small to be visible, but I saw their effects darting beams of needle light, glowing arcs cutting across conti- nents, gigantic, stamplike divots punched into the crust and then lifted up, spun about, overturned. I had never seen anything like this but the Didact had." [/quote] ... And where does it "ground weapons"? [/quote] It's called Halo: Cryptum. You should read it.[/quote] No.[/quote] and......your validity in this discusion just hit the fan. Congratulations! You officially confirmed that you are unwilling to accept the power of the Halo universe! Thus, you are no longer a viable factor in this argument. We need unbias in this.
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[quote] DO YOU WANT ME TO POST THE ENTIRE F**KING BOOK!?!? GO READ BUY THE DAMN THING YOURSELF....everything I have said was in Cryptum... [/quote] Oh sure, I've posted a large amount of quotes. I don't tell you to read the W40k books, now do I? Oh, and no. I don't read Halo novels anymore. [quote] And technically the Forerunners don't even have ground forces....imagine EVERY soldier is in a Gundam-like suit and they fly around tear the crust off of planets.[/quote] Lol, wrong. [Edited on 01.28.2011 4:27 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ociee In the eye.[/quote] In Dead Sky Black Sun, Honsou, Chaos Champion of the Iron Warriors gets half his head obliterated with a Bolt round. He doesn't even notice until he realises he can't see out of his left eye.[/quote] That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.....seriously...not saying it didn't happen....but that is just terrible....
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Wow, Wyld in a 40k thread. HAVE NO FEAR, THE 40K NERD IS HERE! Right, let me list the fuctions of the SPESS MEHREEN gene-seed. 1: Secondary Heart. Kinda obvious. 2: Ossmodula. It alters bones to be retardedly strong and makes the ribcage fuse into a sheet of interlocking plates. 3: Biscopea. Growth Hormone stimulation. 4: Haemastamen. Creates ultra-efficient hemoglobin for oxygen transport. 5: Larraman's Organ. Creates cells that can seal wounds within seconds. 6: Catalepsean Node. Sleep On/Off switch. Also allows SM to stay awake for 2 weeks STRAIGHT without any side effects. 7: Preomnor. De-con chamber for food before it enters the stomach. 8: Omophagea. Literally allows SM to learn by eating brains. 9: Multi-lung. A 3rd lung that allows the SM to breath in ANY atmosphere. 10: Occulobe. Eye enhancer, allows SM to view into infra-red and ultra-violet. 11: Lyman's Ear. Makes SM immune to dizziness and mind altering sounds. Can consciously filter out sounds too. 12: Sus-an Membrane. Allows SM to enter stasis to survive lethal wounds at any time. Longest stasis was 567 years by a Dark Angel SM. 13: Melanochrome. Alters skin pigment to protect SM from radiation in all forms. 14: Oolitic Kidney. Emergency blood filter system. Can completely purify SM´s blood from poisons and venoms within minutes. 15: Neuroglottis. Ultra-taste buds, SM can track by taste alone as well as recognize any and all poison immediately. 16: Mucranoid. VACUUM. PROTECTIVE. SWEAT. 17: Betcher's Gland. Acid Spit. 18: Progenoids. Creates new gene-seeds. 19: Black Carapace. Allows SM to interface with armor to a LITERAL second skin degree. They can feel anything on their armor as if they were naked. Now add at least a CENTURY of experience to this list. That´s the minimum in most chapters until SM get their Power Armor.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] old bad dog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frauka [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ociee The Forerunners could travel in between dimensions....[/quote] ...And? Races in 40k do that normally. [quote] they could also stop galaxies from spinning....[/quote] Proof? [quote] and create black holes as well as ships made out of PURE LIGHT.... [/quote] Proof? [quote] as for that quote on their ground forces...here ya go...this is from Cryptum: "The atmosphere below was a swirling soup of smoke and fire. Warrior craft and automated weapon systems were mostly to small to be visible, but I saw their effects darting beams of needle light, glowing arcs cutting across conti- nents, gigantic, stamplike divots punched into the crust and then lifted up, spun about, overturned. I had never seen anything like this but the Didact had." [/quote] ... And where does it "ground weapons"? [/quote] It's called Halo: Cryptum. You should read it.[/quote] No.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ociee In the eye.[/quote] In Dead Sky Black Sun, Honsou, Chaos Champion of the Iron Warriors gets half his head obliterated with a Bolt round. He doesn't even notice until he realises he can't see out of his left eye.[/quote] So they're invincible? Because in gameplay for 40K I see Space Marines get cut down all the time. Not like cannon fodder, but often.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ociee In the eye.[/quote] In Dead Sky Black Sun, Honsou, Chaos Champion of the Iron Warriors gets half his head obliterated with a Bolt round. He doesn't even notice until he realises he can't see out of his left eye. [Edited on 01.28.2011 4:23 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ociee [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre You are getting off the subject though. This is about [u][b]a[/b][/u] Space Marine and [u][b]a[/b][/u] Spartan II.[/quote] This thread is about the Forerunners now!! No longer will the Halo-verse get trashed by the other Sci Fi universes![/quote] Ok, in that case I raise the Dark Eldar, Eldar and Chaos. Your argument is now, in fact, invalid.[/quote] Precursors move in. Both of them shoot each other. If my assumption these guys you listed are gods is correct, then we reach a paradox, making this fight impossible to conceive. (Precursors are invincible to all forces. Read Cryptum)[/quote] Actually, they're races. Although the Chaos Changer Of Ways, Tzeench, is beyond a god. He can create, manipulate and destroy gods. Basically, the only reason he doesn't just erase existance in the 40K universe is because it amuses him.[/quote] lol at Changer of Ways. I can imagine a guy eating "Jesus Popcorn" while watching the Precursors and Q paradoxing each other in oblivion. But either way, the only thing that can scratch Precursors are the Halos. Elsewise, we have an eternal paradox resulting in a default tie.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Swiftkillswitch3 So, now it's just basically a tied match.[/quote] I would say a [i][b][u]very[/i][/b][/u] close match, but I still believe that a Space Marine would pull through due to his extensively augmented anatomy, physical and mental.[/quote] Don't think anyone's doubting the Marine would likely win against the Spartan. It'd be interesting as hell ('specially if the Spartan had the M99), but I'm still siding with the Marine UNLESS the Spartan, again, had the M99.[/quote] Actually, give me one place you'd shoot with an M99, and I can almost guaruntee the Space Marine would survive. [/quote] In the eye.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WyIdfyre Actually, they're races. Although the Chaos Changer Of Ways, Tzeench, is beyond a god. He can create, manipulate and destroy gods. Basically, the only reason he doesn't just erase existance in the 40K universe is because it amuses him.[/quote] You mean kinda like Yahweh?
