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  • Subject: New maps for 360 only?
Subject: New maps for 360 only?

Why is this? Weird isn't it. I don't care, I will probably have a 360 by then.

Edited for clarification:

It seems from what I read, the maps they are making will be native xbox content, made to run as if for the xbox. Halo 2 is a xbox game, and if the new maps are to work with the Halo 2 game engine on the disk, they will have to be written exactly as if they were made for the xbox. They will then be emulated on the 360. This is why I believe that this decision by microsoft is out of line - they are releasing old-gen content yet refusing it to old-gen console users. The requirement of a 360 is an artificially imposed one and that is why I believe it to be unfair.

This is typically MS's m.o., sure - arguably, that of any business. It of course is obvious that money is the sole driving force. However, it is also the m.o. that an excuse will be given to avoid bad publicity. What do you think this excuse is? So far it seems the best suggestions have to do with the XBL marketplace. Therefore, when the content becomes free (as the last batch of maps did) I think xbox users should be allowed to download it.

What do you think?

[Edited on 11/20/2006]

  • 11.15.2006 2:20 AM PST
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Because they want to force you to buy a 360.DUR.

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Posted by: NomadicGod
Because they want to force you to buy a 360.DUR.

He said it.

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  • 11.15.2006 2:28 AM PST

Posted by: Blasphemy
Posted by: NomadicGod
Because they want to force you to buy a 360.DUR.

He said it.
You don't understand, they must have some excuse, no matter how flimsy. They won't just sit there and say, 'well yes, we just want you to buy a 360 actually. That's the only reason.'

  • 11.15.2006 2:28 AM PST

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eh who cares, by the time the maps come out, the price of the 360 will probably go down a bit, and i have a 360, great system.

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  • 11.15.2006 2:30 AM PST
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tbh im more interested in the prospect of a public halo3 beta :)

as for the 360 thing; maybe because they want you to have a 360 for when halo3 arrives?

  • 11.15.2006 2:31 AM PST

Do you really think it is acceptable now for them to sit there and confirm with a straight face that making the maps 360-only is solely an artificial ruse meant simply to sell more 360s?

  • 11.15.2006 2:33 AM PST
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Posted by: RhythmKiller
Do you really think it is acceptable now for them to sit there and confirm with a straight face that making the maps 360-only is solely an artificial ruse meant simply to sell more copies of their upcoming game?

fix'd

money makes the world go around. i'm an earth scientist and i agree with this statement, such is its power!

heck, look at the fact the majority of halo3 info has been delivered from external sites and magazines; bungie will most certainly be getting paid for this.



[Edited on 11/15/2006]

  • 11.15.2006 2:37 AM PST

Posted by: necare
Posted by: RhythmKiller
Do you really think it is acceptable now for them to sit there and confirm with a straight face that making the maps 360-only is solely an artificial ruse meant simply to sell more copies of their upcoming game?

fix'd

money makes the world go around. i'm an earth scientist and i agree with this statement, such is its power!

You're still not getting it! They can't just come out and say that. And it's Microsoft's decision, not Bungie's, they were at great pains to point out, so I would say it's more accurate that 360-shifting is what it's about... though Halo3-shifting is then there by association.

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Posted by: RhythmKiller
You're still not getting it! They can't just come out and say that.

why? you already know they want your money.

every wondered why halo2 vista is a vista only game...?

  • 11.15.2006 2:43 AM PST

Posted by: necare
every wondered why halo2 vista is a vista only game...?
No, but then I remember you did in the Maw! But seriously though, they came out with an excuse for that. Easy to find one really, when you're dealing with optimising a game for a new operating system.

However, this is an xbox game, not a 360 game... so what's the excuse?

If they don't even bother with one, it's a sad day indeed.

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speculation on my part; the maps will be halo3 maps (with lower resolutions etc?) using the halo2 emulator engine. this could allow fine tuning of some early halo3 maps for the games release.

but then, occams razor; its just about the money really.

  • 11.15.2006 2:51 AM PST

It couldn't be more obvious it's about the money. Is my keyboard broken? I give up... :-(

  • 11.15.2006 2:54 AM PST

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Do you guys think it will have a graphic update, cose if you look at halo 2 vista it looks bether than the xbox version, they could be abel to change this.
On the other hand I would be really happy if they would put in the Achievements of the vista version in to this one.

Again there would be need of a few old remakes like

-Prisoner
-Hang M High
-Chillout

Heres to hoping

  • 11.15.2006 2:59 AM PST

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Its either to drive the Halo2 fans across to buy 360, very ruthless, as the majority of Halo2 players are still on their phatboy xbox consoles.

Or that the downloads need a lot more hard drive space that the xbox cant provide.

To be fair though, its probably the former and not the latter.

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Lets be honest, if your still playing on your xbox and you aint got a 360 already....then you need to ask the supervisor of the orphanage your in, if you can have one for you all to share....

Maybe its because, the xbox is now obscelete, and why create a new set of maps for the xbox, which means they would have to write emulation software for the 360?

And of course its about money also, Bungie or MS, will not flat out say so, but they are businesses, and it would be highly retarded to not try and promote the 360.

And finally, the release of these maps will be around the european release of PS3, coincedence?

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Don't try arguing with idiots. They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

RK's part right - it's about shifting 360s, but more than that, it's about shifting more copies of different games than just Halo 2.

Look at the games companies that Microsoft own in-house:

Rare
Epic
Bungie
Lionhead
Ensemble

and those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Now every time a game by one of those developers is bought, MS will get a portion of the profit, and seeing as how the majority are now developing for the 360 it makes sense that MS will try and get the platform out there to increase the chances of making profit from the games as well...

BASE

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  • 11.15.2006 3:30 AM PST

Posted by: Phuzion
Maybe its because, the xbox is now obscelete, and why create a new set of maps for the xbox, which means they would have to write emulation software for the 360?

The maps aren't 'for the xbox', they're for a xbox game. The emulation software is already there for that game on the 360. It is making the maps 360-only which will require new software, not the other way round.

The point is not 'oh I don't want to get a 360.' The point is, have things got so bad that they don't even need to disguise this cynical move?

  • 11.15.2006 3:54 AM PST

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I couldn't care less either way since I already own a 360 and love it. I'm actually happy to see its 360 only, that way we won't have to endure modding on those maps and a lot less noobs will upgrade because solely maps.

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However which way they dress it up, whatever excuse/reason they give for making it 360 only, will NOT affect its popularity...people will still download it, and if it can shift a few 360s then fair play to them....ridiculous thread....

  • 11.15.2006 4:31 AM PST

MY XBOX DIED THAT'S WHY.

Posted by: RhythmKiller
Do you really think it is acceptable now for them to sit there and confirm with a straight face that making the maps 360-only is solely an artificial ruse meant simply to sell more 360s?

They are competing with 2 new consols who are going to have a crap load of exclusive content coming out in the spring.
It's a buisness not a Xbox food bank.
Not that I like it or anything.... :/

  • 11.15.2006 4:35 AM PST

Posted by: Phuzion
However which way they dress it up, whatever excuse/reason they give for making it 360 only, will NOT affect its popularity...people will still download it, and if it can shift a few 360s then fair play to them....ridiculous thread....
How is it ridiculous to ask how they justify making DLC incompatible with the platform which the game came out for? It isn't.

For one last time, I want to know how they are justifying this, not why they are doing it.

  • 11.15.2006 4:45 AM PST

Stop Telling Me To Veto

Posted by: RhythmKiller
Do you really think it is acceptable now for them to sit there and confirm with a straight face that making the maps 360-only is solely an artificial ruse meant simply to sell more 360s?

Well technically they say that they were trying to make it accessable to the original Xbox as well, but the final decsion wasn't completely up to them.

  • 11.15.2006 4:49 AM PST

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