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Subject: Fun Sandbox Game - Halo 3 Campaign (Chieftain Chase!)

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Halo 3 is a sandbox. No doubt there. We generally can use it to do things not intended by Bungie, due to Halo 3's physics, AI, and other various things, like checkpoints and loading zones. Glitches and such come to mind, as I know some of you have probably spent many hours exploring the maps in Campaign. (And multiplayer, but that's not my point here.) It's come to my attention recently that there's a lot you can do in Campaign to add some fun, stuff not necessarily intended by Bungie, but a complete blast with a few friends.

Long read, but I want to share this hilariously fun experience with you all. :)

Brute Hammer Chieftain on Crow's Nest

This is one I discovered with two friends of mine, SadistikN2k and El Roboto.

Game Settings: Legendary
Players: 3 Recommended. (It's crowded with 4 and too difficult alone or with only one friend.)
Crow's Nest - Rally Point Alpha
Skulls:
Tilt, Mythic (any others are up to you, but this is the best way to do it)

The goal of this game is to get the Hammer Chieftain to follow you throughout the entirety of the level. The farthest we've gotten him thus far is the hangar platform where you get attacked by jetpack Brutes. Read for instructions:

You walk from the Command Center (where you start) into the garage, just as normal. At the end of the garage there is a hammer-wielding Chieftain. He is the source of our amusement. Kill all the brutes except the Chieftain. (for your information, after leaving the Command Center, you will be killing everything, Marines and enemies alike, except the Chieftain.) After clearing the room, the Chieftain will be angry, for sure. Let him chase you, into the next room.

The next room is a hallway. Very narrow, not very tall. Since the hammer is potentially dangerous, you generally want to keep one guy out of sight or away from everyone else in order to respawn dead players. The hallway ends with a hole. A drone may fly out of it, kill this drone. DO NOT fall down the hole. The trick is to get the chieftain to lunge at you and fall down the hole before you, so he is in the next tunnel. After he falls down, you may go down as well.

If you're lucky, you might get a checkpoint when you land. We got one once, but had trouble getting it on later attempts. :( We've theorized that if you fall down the hole BEFORE the Chieftain, but have him falling down right behind you, you will get a checkpoint. I can't confirm this though, Checkpoints seem to be hard to get with the Chieftain chasing you like you were a runaway ice cream truck.

In the tunnel, you will be interrupted by Cortana, all while standing right next to 2000 pounds of hammer-wielding blubber. (Trust me, the fat jokes make it all the more humorous, I had to put down my controller once.) Don't worry, he won't attack until Cortana goes away. One player must stay behind while the rest go forward and kill all the drones. (Warning: They are dangerous and can kill you. Generally a melee will kill them in one hit.)

This room is tricky. We've found that hiding in the pipes can sometimes lead to you getting trapped by an angry brute. Not fun. So, stay in the open, there's enough room to jump over his head as he lunges. You will learn to get his pattern down. From here, you need to get him to fall off the end. DO NOT fall off before him with all players. As long as one player is still in the tunnel, you're fine. The others that did fall may go down and jump off the edge into the water to respawn. To get the Chieftain down, stand on the edge right before you fall down from the tunnel into "the cylinder". The brute has trouble navigating this room sometimes, so be patient, and use it to your advantage. Once he falls down, leave one player up top to be the respawner. The other players must now get the Chieftain to fall down into the next area, that small concrete platform across from the elevator. Once the Chieftain falls down there, open the door and progress into the next room. Get him to chase you into there. (Note: Make sure he doesn't lunge off the edge into the water!!)

We'll call this room the Barracks.
Now, there's multiple strategies here. The best one we've found is to have the Elite players run around with plasma pistols and carbines taking out the brutes. (and marines!) Meanwhile, another player stays back and keeps the Chieftain busy. Staying up top is usually safe, but the Chieftain is apparently a Jedi Knight and can force jump like a maniac. Do not let him out of your sight. Twice we did, and twice he managed to disappear. We're not sure why that was, but anyway, keep an eye on him. Progress through the room, all while avoiding his mighty hammer, and killing every other Brute and Marine in the Barracks. (Do not go up into the upper ceiling vents. He can jump up and follow you, and in our case, corner you and beat the snot out of you.)

Again, we got a checkpoint at the end of here once, but are having trouble duplicating that. Don't lose all your players or you will have to go back to your last checkpoint, which MAY be back in the Garage. Ye Be Warned.

The next room is a hallway with a door. Get that door open (generally one guy is leading a bit). That door leads to the elevator platform. (Reminder: Make sure he doesn't lunge off the edge into the water!!) Get someone to pop open the elevator. It'll take it's time, so make sure you have time. Once the elevator lands, get on the top bars. Pick someone daring to hit the button once the Chief has entered the elevator with you. Enjoy the ride. Don't die! :) This is one of the more hilarious close quarters spots.

The next area is VERY open and anything that falls off WILL die. Make sure the Chieftain does not fall off. We had a close call, but he was fine. Kill all the brutes and marines until you can go to the next area. Try to get the Chieftain somewhere out of the way during this, generally on the lower floor so he is not bothering you during combat. Once the brutes are all dead, a big door opens full of drones and marines. Kill them, and continue. Now, if Tubby McLard is still following you, careful. If you go ahead without him close enough to you, a door will shut. In our case, between us and him. :'( This is what happened to us, and he was forever sealed behind this door. Sadly, this is as far as we've managed so far. I plan to right this mistake some day, and continue further through the level with 1 ton of fur in tow. Anyone who gets further, I demand pictures.

We plan to try again sometime. Have at it, I swear it's incredibly fun. :)


Things to remember:
- He is fairly predictable. Get to know his pattern. Though he will surprise you sometimes, which is great and hilarious, but be careful. The Chieftain will also occasionally throw some spike grenades.
- Sometimes he will get stuck. Be patient. Generally walking right up to him will make him swing at you and stop running into a wall or standing there doing nothing.
- Always keep guys infront and behind him. Never cluster, or you might have to revert. Also; avoiding dying, unless it's required to get the chieftain to lunge off an edge to a lower platform and such.
- Do not shoot him, ever. Brutes have health, so any shots will slowly bring him down. If you want him to pay attention to you, shoot near him, but do not hit him directly.
- Tilt and Mythic make brutes very strong. Plasma Pistol + BR/Carbine will bring them down nicely. Again, avoid hitting the Chieftain as much as possible.
- Communicate! It's tough to coordinate this without talking.
- Trash talk. That big fat ugly brute deserves it. Besides, we've decided it makes him angrier.
- Have fun. It's truly a riot, and a fun challenge at that!

This is one I've found to be delightful. Please post your own! :) There's so much to do.

For more Halo 3 fun (NOT by me), go here. Rockslider has found some great little things to do in campaign.

[Edited on 05.23.2008 1:35 PM PDT]

  • 05.23.2008 1:16 PM PDT
Subject: Fun Sandbox Games - Halo 3 Campaign

It is definitely entertaining. Remember last weekend when we tried it again and managed to really mess things up? The Brute wasn't attacking us and was constantly running away whenever we approached him (I call him the shy Brute).

So much fun. I find that when he becomes especially annoyed , he "Uses the Force" and jumps about 20 feet in the air. He followed us into a ventilation shaft in the barracks! As for insulting the Chieftain, I find originality works best. Also, I believe I was the one who figured out that trash-talking the AIs adds more humour to this.

  • 05.23.2008 1:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ninja2000
Also, I believe I was the one who figured out that trash-talking the AIs adds more humour to this.

For sure. Like I said, I had to put my controller down on that "Ah, where is he!? It's 2000 pounds of fat I can't see!"

It was greatness. I honestly recommend everyone go try this when they get a chance.

  • 05.23.2008 1:34 PM PDT

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After we all tried it yesterday, I spent a good two hours trying to get him to the barracks. Made it!! And then the power cut >.> So began the "trying to get him into the hole" began again :/

It's a helluva lot of fun though :D


That was hilarious when we broke his AI and he just hugged all of us

^.^

[Edited on 05.23.2008 1:45 PM PDT]

  • 05.23.2008 1:44 PM PDT

Stand back, I tend to spew my own mental garbage at people. And it tends to stink, leaves bitter tastes, and is flammable.

This topic is made of Epic Win. I love you you tried to do something different, and amusing. Then you share it with us! I am glad to know there are people like you on Bungie.net. :D

  • 05.23.2008 1:48 PM PDT

Posted by: SonicJohn
That was hilarious when we broke his AI and he just hugged all of us

^.^


I though that he ran away when we broke his AI. He really must hate me... =[

Edit- Above post: Thanks. We're glad to know that you were entertained by our misadventures.

[Edited on 05.23.2008 1:51 PM PDT]

  • 05.23.2008 1:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ninja2000
Posted by: SonicJohn
That was hilarious when we broke his AI and he just hugged all of us

^.^


I though that he ran away when we broke his AI. He really must hate me... =[


Well, I'm not sure about you, but I was defintely right up there curling my Sanghelli mandibles into his grey fur :D

I can't believe I just said that.

  • 05.23.2008 1:49 PM PDT

This sounds insanely fun and I am going to have to try it some time.

Here is another bnet members Campaign hilarity that you might enjoy and maybe even try yourself.

  • 05.23.2008 1:50 PM PDT

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No way - Zag posts in teh H3 forums lol. This sounds like tons o' fun.
Any other shenanigans you've been doing? How about trying to get a suicide grunt to follow you? Cortana might cause some issues there...

  • 05.23.2008 1:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Yuben Meatslapt
This sounds insanely fun and I am going to have to try it some time.

Here is another bnet members Campaign hilarity that you might enjoy and maybe even try yourself.


I always do that though.

Am I just naturally hilarious or what? :P

  • 05.23.2008 1:51 PM PDT

Posted by: Yuben Meatslapt
This sounds insanely fun and I am going to have to try it some time.

Here is another bnet members Campaign hilarity that you might enjoy and maybe even try yourself.


How in the world did you get a Mongoose to the end? That is simply awesome.
If we actually manage to finish this wild idea of ours, we'll have to post some pictures ourselves.

  • 05.23.2008 1:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: Kaminah
This topic is made of Epic Win. I love you you tried to do something different, and amusing. Then you share it with us! I am glad to know there are people like you on Bungie.net. :D

I'm glad there's people like me as well. Otherwise I would... be.. not.. existant.

Or something like that.
Posted by: The MLG Pope
No way - Zag posts in teh H3 forums lol. This sounds like tons o' fun.
Any other shenanigans you've been doing? How about trying to get a suicide grunt to follow you? Cortana might cause some issues there...

I post here all the time. You're crazy. That suicide grunt idea sounds tricky. I don't think they last forever, and the Brute is just far more friendly than an exploding grunt. Wait, did I really just say that?
Posted by: Yuben Meatslapt
This sounds insanely fun and I am going to have to try it some time.

Here is another bnet members Campaign hilarity that you might enjoy and maybe even try yourself.

That's one way to take out the Scarab... :)

Stuff like that, for sure!

[Edited on 05.23.2008 1:56 PM PDT]

  • 05.23.2008 1:56 PM PDT

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Lol, I remember doing something like this on Halo: CE.

Me and a friend got the Elite with an Energy Sword on Assault on the Control Room to follow us right to the end, we had an absolutely amazing tactic for the lifts.

The final cutscene showed the elite killing master chief, then running around in the background, was totally worth it.

  • 05.23.2008 1:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: BassistBowen
Lol, I remember doing something like this on Halo: CE.

Me and a friend got the Elite with an Energy Sword on Assault on the Control Room to follow us right to the end, we had an absolutely amazing tactic for the lifts.

The final cutscene showed the elite killing master chief, then running around in the background, was totally worth it.

That one I have actually done! :) It's very fun, yes. This is similar, but we're still trying to get further. It's tricky.

  • 05.23.2008 1:59 PM PDT

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Yes, I am crazy. And yes, you did just say that. lol @ suicide grunts don't last forever. Do they just disappear? Or simply self-destruct for the lulz? I just love the crazy spongebobesque noises they make while chasing you, and I think that if you could make him chase you forever there would be no end to the hilarity.

  • 05.23.2008 2:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: BassistBowen
Lol, I remember doing something like this on Halo: CE.

Me and a friend got the Elite with an Energy Sword on Assault on the Control Room to follow us right to the end, we had an absolutely amazing tactic for the lifts.

The final cutscene showed the elite killing master chief, then running around in the background, was totally worth it.


Haha, reminds me of flattening myself with the Banshee in that last cutscene. Always worth that laugh :D

I've never tried that, but I defintely will now :D

Posted by: The MLG Pope
Yes, I am crazy. And yes, you did just say that. lol @ suicide grunts don't last forever. Do they just disappear? Or simply self-destruct for the lulz? I just love the crazy spongebobesque noises they make while chasing you, and I think that if you could make him chase you forever there would be no end to the hilarity.


I believe they eventually trip.

[Edited on 05.23.2008 2:04 PM PDT]

  • 05.23.2008 2:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: The MLG Pope
Yes, I am crazy. And yes, you did just say that. lol @ suicide grunts don't last forever. Do they just disappear? Or simply self-destruct for the lulz? I just love the crazy spongebobesque noises they make while chasing you, and I think that if you could make him chase you forever there would be no end to the hilarity.

As Sonic John said, I think they fall down or something. Some can go for a good 10 seconds or more, but I don't think they'll follow you until they get close, they have an overall time-out, I believe.

  • 05.23.2008 2:05 PM PDT

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I guess I just shoot them too fast usually :\ But they trip? Seriously Bungie...
I will take a super-photo of a suicide grunt tripping and plaster it with FAIL! / You're Doing it Wrong!

  • 05.23.2008 2:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: The MLG Pope
I guess I just shoot them too fast usually :\ But they trip? Seriously Bungie...
I will take a super-photo of a suicide grunt tripping and plaster it with FAIL! / You're Doing it Wrong!


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  • 05.23.2008 2:11 PM PDT

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I've never thought of doing this with campaign.

  • 05.23.2008 2:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
I've never thought of doing this with campaign.

Come, my son, and be enlightened.

  • 05.23.2008 2:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achilles1108
But the Crouching Camo Hidden Roboto style is flourishing.

Originally myself, Zag, and Ninja2000 were just going through campain on Legendary with quite a few skulls on until we reached the hammer chieftan on Crows nest and someone had the funny idea to try and get him to follow up. Guess you never know how much fun you can have with something until you try it out.

I did notice that the second time we tried doing this, the chieftan's AI seemed different somehow. I'm sure that during our first run that the chieftan never threw any spike grenades at us while we tried to get him through the level, but the second time he sure did it quite a bit.

[Edited on 05.23.2008 2:21 PM PDT]

  • 05.23.2008 2:21 PM PDT

I believe that was you, Roboto who came up with the idea. Funny stuff.

That second time was slightly more difficult. So many spike grenades...
It reminded me of the Webmaster - Angry guy in a gorrila suit wearing a ridiculous hat and throwing glass beer bottles at people. Substitute spike grenade for glass beer bottle where appropriate.

[Edited on 05.23.2008 2:26 PM PDT]

  • 05.23.2008 2:26 PM PDT

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I think you guys should use co-op to get the Scarabs on The Covenant to fire at each other.

  • 05.23.2008 2:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
I think you guys should use co-op to get the Scarabs on The Covenant to fire at each other.

Hehe, now that's an idea... I'll give that one a try next time I'm not too busy.

  • 05.23.2008 2:39 PM PDT

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